Monday, July 22, 2013

Marriage certificate registration process for Catholics in Mumbai

Well, if you are reading this post, it means that you are looking online for a rather daunting, but compulsory , govt procedure that each newly married couple has to undergo, despite its dread, to have their marriages recognized for any official documented process. Please note that this blog covers this process for people who follow the catholic religion only. However, if by any chance you follow a different faith apart from the catholic, jewish or Parsi faiths (an exclusion which escaped me, but not the minute attention seeking eye of my better half), do not despair. I am attaching the rules and regulations snap shot displayed at the local BMC office, where according to the new law, you can get your marriages registered.


So, if you are a catholic, read ahead. 
You have two options:
1. Follow the regular procedure of getting two witnesses and registering your marriage with the registrar. The problem with this method is that both you, and your spouse need to be present at the registrar. This,  excluding a trip to get a date with the registrar. Moreover, you need two witnesses for this procedure, and so, will have to co-ordinate an off-day with them or in a worst case, plead them to attend the marriage registrars office.
2. Get the marriage certificate from the church attested (for which I will guide you in this blog). The advantage with this method is that only one of you (I'm guessing it will mostly be the husband's...hehehe) need to be present. Also, it requires no prior date reservations. Everything is done in a single day. 

I opted for the second method as it was easier and hassle-free (or so I thought). I tried to find a lot of help online as any good netizen would do, but got very little. Although, I must admit that the Snehalaya website (http://snehalaya.in/civil-law.htm) mentions it in a much better manner. Also, it is mentioned in a very good manner in the blog by Moses Gomes (http://cybi.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/information-on-court-marriages-mumbai/). Thanks for taking the time to jot this down guys!

Having done the preliminary research, I decided to deep dive into this methodology. I had my cousin with me to provide me moral support all along the way :D. Ok, so no more wasting time. Here goes:

What you will need:
1. An id proof (passports work great) of both the partners.
2. A photocopy of each of the proof.
3. The notarized marriage certificate (will get to this later)
4. A pen :)
5. Patience and
6. A day off :)

Now Snehalaya's website mentions that the Marriage certificate obtained from the church has to be notarized first, but on Speaking to the marriage registrar and the father in the bishops house, I got to know that the notary has to be done after the stamping from the archbishops house. I followed the Snehalaya method and the father at the archbishops house said that it does not matter. But just to avoid inconvenience, you can notarize the document from the Bombay high court (or any other suitable place you know) on the day you are visiting the archbishops house, so that the date is same. But in my experience it does not matter much, as long as the certificate is notarized. I had a gap of a week between the notarization and the archbishops house stamping. 
So, to summarize the steps:
  •  Obtain the marriage certificate from your respective church.
  •  Get it notarized from the notary (preferably on the same day as you intend to go to get the procedure done, but not necessary)
  • Visit the archbishops house at Colaba, Woodhouse, to get the stamping done (location available on Google maps). The timings as of today are:

            Morning: 9:00am - 1:00pm
            Evening: 3:00pm - 5:00pm

           A word of caution: Please reach the archbishops house well before 1:00 or 5:00 so that the father does not go on   a break. I just made it before 1:00, but the father had already left, so I had to wait till 3:00 to get the stamping done. And it was a long wait:). Note that the Mantralaya section can be done only in afternoon, so choose your time accordingly
  •  After the stamping, go to the home department building opposite Mantralaya. 
          The timings are: 2:00 pm - 5:00 pm.
          They will ask for an id proof (original) before letting you in. So, the passport (or any other Photograph  id proof that you are carrying) will be handy. You have to make an entry in a register. Place your  baggage (if any) in an x-ray machine, get yourself searched and then continue into the building. Here,  you need to go to the home department attestation center on the 9th floor and get the document attested. You will face a long line here, so it makes sense to allocate sufficient time for this process in your schedule. It took me almost an hour for my turn. In case people in the queue try to confuse you, note that you don't need any photocopies of any document since the original itself is verified.

Here, there are two windows placed side-by-side:
  1. The first will just verify your original id proof against your name and stamp the document. You need to enter the name of the notary officer in the blank space and move to the window ahead. The person on this first window will guide you.
  2. Here, you need to again show your id proof to the presiding officer, who will verify it again and sign the marriage certificate on the stamp from the previous window. I almost missed this window and my cousin pointed it out to me :).
         So now, in affect you will have the notary at the back of the marriage certificate, along with 3 stamps   by the archbishop house and another stamp by this verification dept. Whew! thats too many stamps for          such a small certificate. So, by now, its almost full.
  • Before moving further, make sure you have the following:
  1. The original and Photocopies of the id proofs of both the partners (preferably the passport, as it has the  biological fathers name on it, which will be verified against the fathers name on the marriage certificate).
  2. A photocopy of the recently stamped marriage certificate with the backside showing all the stamps collected till now.
  • Finally, go to the Mantralaya, i.e. the building opposite to where you are. Right now, the building is being renovated, so you will need to go to the back of the building from another entrance. But for this, you require a pass. This pass is available just to the left of the main gate, which is again given on display of a photo id. So, by now, you know how important the id proof is. Take the gate pass and continue to the left, take a right and you will see another gate. As an indication, there is a post office on the ground floor, just so you know that you have entered the correct gate. Again, show your Id proof, dump your bag in the x-ray machine and move on. Same again in the first building to your left that you will enter. Take a left and follow the path to the lift. Go to the 6th floor. Here you  will meet the marriage registrar, Mr. Lopez, currently in room 631. He will verify the documents against the originals, take the photocopies of the id proofs and the photocopy of the recently stamped marriage certificate that you just took in the previous step. He will then stamp the marriage certificate, and you are done!


Thats it...you have made your marriage certificate good for all govt purposes and also if you need it to go abroad. Phew! quite a task huh..

When doing my research, I got Mr. Lopez's number from the govt website, who explained the entire process to us, step-by-step. So, a big thank you to him for being such a great help! 

I hope I was able to help you in getting clarification to register your marriage. All the best!






34 comments:

Nelson said...

Wonderfully Explained..Thanks a ton

Unknown said...

Hey thanks a billion, very well explained. God Bless

Unknown said...

HI,

We got married in December and have completed just 2 steps of the certificate so far that's : Stamp from Archbishop and marriage registrar from Mantralaya.in January.. now there are 2 more steps remaining 1 is Notaray and there is more step ...?? please let me know what am I missing.

Unknown said...

Is it necessary that only passport is required for ID proof?

stanna said...

Not necessarily ur voters Id or pan card is fine

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Raul said...

Thank you so much for posting this, can you pls attach the rear copy of yr marriage certificate. It will help people in knowing they have the right stamps on their certificate. they should be no privacy issues as rear side does not contain any personal info.

Unknown said...

HEY MELS (??).. THANX FOR THE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF THE WHOLE PROCESS... DEFINITELY MADE VERY ENJOYABLE BY INFUSION OF YOUR HUMOUR ALL ALONG IT..
THANX A MIL
GOD-BLESS!!!
and
yeah
cheers...

MASSI COELHO

Unknown said...

Dear Mel, I found the process to be a little different from what you have written. Before i explain further, allow me to thank you for taking time and writing down the process in such detail.

So the following is how I got my marriage certificate stamped.

After getting the marriage certificate from the church I got it notarized.
Next
1) I went to Bishop House
2) I went to GT Hospital (New Mantralaya building) and went to Mr. Ramesh Dsouza's (Registrar) office and got more stamps
3) I went to Home Department (Opp. Mantralaya) to get final stamp and signature.

That's all. I suggest you to kindly update your blog so that it can help all the more people with up to date detail as it always does. Cheers and keep up the good work. God bless.

Elvis said...

Thanks Mel for the detailed process.

Can you share if there is any payment that needs to be done at Bishop house, Mantralaya and Home department.
Notary, there would definitely expense, how much would it be?

francislmonteiro said...

Holy Father

You are the tree and cardinal bishops are trunk and we are branches.Then why we lay people rights are not considered by Mumbai church

Govt gives receipt for every penny paid then why Church do not give receipt for contribution to Mass,Donation Certificate issued etc

From last several years I am fighting for transparency in Funds collected by Church .Mumbai Church is full of news about land selling to builders,demanding donations,Not giving records of fund collected

Why Holy Father instead of giving instruction does not come heavily on those who go against Church teachings.Why we are tutored like child that God is merciful and we can go on sinning The first trunk part that will crack is Mumbai archdiocese.

My Church Nativity of Lord kandivali east Mumbai collects building fund of rs two lacks from public every month .The priest refuses to give balance sheet showing where cores from last seven years or more kept .We want to know which banks hold this money .We want expenditure /income details from start of fund.This father has completed five years then why he is not transferred .Should I believe their are God Father?Our Church is closed full day on Monday ,No mass.Why one assistant not given to this church as we have seven hundred families.

The contribution to fund is voluntary but they have made compulsory by closing nose saying no minority/baptism /marriage certificate be given unless latest receipt of contribution to fund is shown

Holy father has to act against Arch bishop as my letters fall on deaf ear

Father This same priest shouts against corruption of Govt but what he is doing by hiding facts.We can preach many good but can we be hypocrit

WE can arrange yearly picnic yearly party and what not then why not annual general body meeting to discuss accounts and other agenda

Unknown said...

I have got married in 2013 and have a marriage certificate from the church in Mangalore. How do I get my marriage registered in Mumbai

Unknown said...

I have got married in 2013 and have a marriage certificate from the church in Mangalore. How do I get my marriage registered in Mumbai

Jaison said...

Is it possible to register the marriage in Mumbai (mantrAlaya) as per the explained procedure, which was solemnized in a Kerala Catholic Church (Archdiocese of Trichur). Please help.

Jaison said...

Is it possible to register the marriage in Mumbai (mantrAlaya) as per the explained procedure, which was solemnized in a Kerala Catholic Church (Archdiocese of Trichur). Please help.

Unknown said...
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Unknown said...

I have little spelling mistake of surname in my pan card.Is that they thoroughly check the Id proof?? ie.spelling mistake and all...

Unknown said...

As of July 2017,after getting the marriage certificate stamped by the Bishop's house and after notarising the same for Rs.100, you have to go to the New Administrative office on the 9th Floor and have it stamped in the 2nd room and get it signed by Mr.Dsouza in the 1st room. Then take your original & photocopies of both partners photoproofs and the stamped marriage certificate original and photocopy (front and back) and go on the 14th floor of the same building which is opp Mantralay. Mr.Lopez who's the marriage registrar will verify and finally stamp and sign. Your work is finally done..This is how I did it in July2017

Vanessa Fernandes said...

Hi just wanted to know how is the verification done for court marriage in catholic also wanna know if a married person having an affair and wanna get married can it be done in Mantralaya how do you people come to know if he is married earlier need help immediately plz

Vanessa Fernandes said...

Hi just wanted to know how is the verification done for court marriage in catholic also wanna know if a married person having an affair and wanna get married can it be done in Mantralaya how do you people come to know if he is married earlier need help immediately plz

Unknown said...

Hey, can i get my marriage certificate in the steps mentioned above even after 2 years of marriage ?

Unknown said...

Hi i got court married in Sep 2018 ..so wil this cert. be valid fr me ??
And In Dec 2018 V gt church married .. even aftr gting d court cert. is it necessary to get the Church Cert. atested with this above whole process??

Unknown said...

People will think twice before getting married due to the hassle involved in getting the marriage registered. Who knows the merry go around for marriage registration may lead to divorce!

Unknown said...

What about registration process for christian Jacobite marriage in maharashtra

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Anthony Val said...

Marriage Registrar Mr. Lopez and Mr. Dsouza both are now Retired.

No Stamping by Marriage Registrar happens now from the beginning of 2020.

We are now requested to contact Diocese;

a notice about same is put on both the doors of 9th floor New Admin Bldg Mantralaya.

Mr. Lopez who is still very much available post retirement said to report the matter to your Parish Priest.. Who in return has to approach the Bishop house to formally write to Chief Minister for appointment of new Marriage Registrar for Catholics.

Bishop house stamping remains the same.. Notary is required.. Attestation is done on same floor however stamping by Registrar will not happen unless a new Registrar is appointed by Government of Maharashtra.

Unknown said...

I need help as my husband 2 nd marriage is done at Mantralaya and the officer in charge was ramesh D'Souza but no action taken yey so need help in this

Unknown said...

I am Vanessa John. Married for the last 12 years I need help as my husband Anthony has done 2nd marriage at Mantralaya and the officer in charge was ramesh D'Souza but no action taken yey so need help in this as I have been visiting mr Ramesh said will look into this n solve the issue but nothing yet and since 3 years I am facing physical and mental issues because of this my inlaws are also not doing anything please help me

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Unknown said...

am Vanessa John. Married for the last 12 years I need help as my husband Anthony has done 2nd marriage at Mantralaya and the officer in charge was ramesh D'Souza but no action taken yey so need help in this as I have been visiting mr Ramesh said will look into this n solve the issue but nothing yet and since 3 years I am facing physical and mental issues because of this my inlaws are also not doing anything please help me

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